BYOB Wine 2

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Henry009

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Sorry, but since I was #20 on the first BYOB Wine thread, I thought I'd post my findings separately again as follows:

I reviewed a wine list with prices posted for the Galaxy on cruiseclues.com...I believe the wine list is recent from its contents.

I checked about a dozen wines against prices at Total Wine (wineaccess.com)...a national retail chain in states not dictated to by a LCB.

On average, wines costing up to about $40 on Celebrity were based approximately on the following formula:

Retail cost + corkage fee ($12) + $7.00

For example, compare a bottle of 1999 Beringer Founders Estate Merlot

Celebrity $26

Retail $8 + Corkage $12 = $20

Celebrity makes an extra $6

Another, 1999 Sequoia Grove Cabernet Sauvignon:

Celebrity $44

Retail $22 + Corkage $12 = $34

Celebrity makes $10

2000 St. Francis Chardonnay

Celebrity $29

Retail $10 + $12 = $22

Celebrity makes $7

It's that simple and it held true for 12 different wines.

In addition, there is a 15% gratuity placed on wines purchased on board which increases the price even further.

The gouging comes for higer priced wines when the additional celebrity profit over retail and corkage goes to $16 to $25 before gratuity. So if you buy a wine costing $30 retail, you will likely be paying upwards to $75 for that wine on board when it would cost you $42 when you add on the corkage fee and no gratuity.

Furthermore, the wine list is not impressive. It is geared to cost about $30 on average per bottle, however, they are really serving inferior wines at that price as noted above with an $8 merlot priced at $26 before gratuity which brings it $30. They are in effect charging the corkage fee on the bottle of wine AND making an additional $6 and then you have to pay the gratuity when the corkage fee already covers the gratuity.

People would fare better buying premium wines for about $20 - $30 a bottle retail then paying the corkage fee. This would either approximate or be slightly more expensive than selections from the ship's wine list, however, the wine experience would be greatly enhanced.

Or bring your own inexpensive wines and save about $7 per bottle on average and save the gratuity.

While this is lengthy, I hope it helps. I will purchase better wines and pay the corkage.



Post Edited (04-19-04 06:08)
 
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ROSS

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WELL DONE HENRY!!

Things have really changed in the past 20 years of cruising. Carnival Cruises literally built their fleet on the empty beer cans and bottles they sold to the pax. Prices for alcohol are at an obnoxious level and this detracts from the total cruise experience.

Remember that most alcohol is imported and the shipping lines do not pay any import duty. Their booze is bought in bulk directly from the distillers and vinyards at below wholesale rates and duty free to boot. The premium wines from foreign countries are even less costly to the lines.

Years ago you could buy drinks and bottles of wines at very reasonable prices onboard a ship...so much so that you would never bother to bring your own stock onboard. The lines will probably start upping the corkage fee...again. Seems to be a case of
"FULL GREED AHEAD"!!!

I am currently looking into having our state port authority force these shipping companies to accept legal alcohol (alcohol that has been purchased in that particular state with all the proper duties and taxes paid) onboard for private consumption in a passengers cabin. In other words, if a ship wants to call at Boston then the ship has to abide by the local law which would enable a passenger to bring legal alcohol onboard for in-cabin consumption only. This has been done in the past...about 12 years ago you could purchase liquor and wine at the pier in FLL and it would be sent onboard to your cabin. This was discontinued because of political pressure by the lines. It will be interesting to see what happens when we coantact the local liquor lobby and start applying political pressure from the other direction.

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BSeabob

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I thought so....good effort Henry and good luck Ross. profit is needed & a good thing actually but there is a need to be consumer friendly I think.
 
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BP

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The posting by Ross is the reason that I bring my own wine for our evening dinners .
I don't mind the corkage fee, but on my vacation I want to at least have a decent bottle of wine for dinner . Nice posting.
 
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twoinpitt

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BYOB Wine or Champ....

We've read a number of posts regarding byob and corkage fees. Am I to understand that if we bring our own "beverages" on board to drink in the privacy of our own cabin or veranda, we would have to pay a corkage fee?
 
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ROSS

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Re: BYOB Wine or Champ....

THANKS BseaBob and BP...

Twoinpitt!!! You do not have to pay a corkage fee in your own cabin. You pay the corkage fee in the dining room. If you have a nice bottle of wine that you want with your dinner...you can send it down to the dining room to your table or make arrangements with the wine steward aka Sommelier to have him/her serve it to you. The corkage fee covers the profit and tip to the company and steward.

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