after looking around... i found that for about 20-50 dollars more i can get a 12-15mp camera with most of the bells and whistles too... so i'll probably not buy the kodak ES.. probably go with a fujifilm finepix 12.2mp it costs about the same as a kodak ES...
Now if only Finding a good mid priced HDD camcorder was so easy... I'm very disapointed in my miniDVD camcorder... failed to finalize all my discs from last cruise ,oooohhhh i'm sooo pissed i spent money on that P.O.S.... am currently looking at the JVC everio brand HDD players, they seem like a good camcorder for the money spent...