Carnival Liberty Death

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lthompson22

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My husband and i had a wonderful cruise, but i was just wondering if anyone else had info on what had happened. Wednesday night on our way back to our cabin from dinner they paged "morning star to cabin 6217" which was a couple away from our cabin and we saw quite a few "offical" cruise personel walking towards the cabin and gathered around the open door. We didn't think much of it and thought maybe someone was sick and i was a little worried because i lost my dinner not too long after getting back to our cabin and made my husband call and see if there was any sickness going around- they told him that a few people had fevers, but no one had reported throwing up. I stayed in that night and felt better the next day, but this morning before leaving the ship at breakfast a woman told me that a man had died that night and that was what the page was for. There was plenty of police around that room this morning taking out some bags of stuff from the room. I love cruises, but this worries me that they keep people getting sick so quiet. Just wondering if anyone else heard anything about this or experienced anything. It was the 6 day cruise departed may 6th and returned may 12th.
 
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dokken

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From what I have seen, the average age on cruise ships has to be around 65. With 2500+ passengers on board someone is bound to die from time to time just from natural causes alone. Then throw in the health issues and travel stress which increases the death toll. This is probably somewhat common but usually goes unnoticed unless you have a nearby cabin.
I wouldn't be suprised if they start staffing Cardiologist on board in the future.
One cruise I was on made an unscheduled 3AM stop at St.Thomas to unload a heart patient.

Another cruise I was on had so many elderly People that I thought they were going to have "Lark Races" on the Lido deck!!!!!!!!!
 
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giesecar42

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[quote dokken]From what I have seen, the average age on cruise ships has to be around 65. With 2500+ passengers on board someone is bound to die from time to time just from natural causes alone. Then throw in the health issues and travel stress which increases the death toll. This is probably somewhat common but usually goes unnoticed unless you have a nearby cabin.
I wouldn't be suprised if they start staffing Cardiologist on board in the future.
One cruise I was on made an unscheduled 3AM stop at St.Thomas to unload a heart patient.

Another cruise I was on had so many elderly People that I thought they were going to have "Lark Races" on the Lido deck!!!!!!!!![/quote]
 
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randk

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I would like to know what cruise ship has an average age of 65. I dont think it is Carnival, though it may be one of the other companies they own. Every cruise I have been on I would have to say the average is about 40 to 45. But either way, i really do not belive it is "common for someone to die on a cruise" it does happen but not that it is common or day to day. Just my 2 cents worth.
 
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JackS

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[quote randk]I would like to know what cruise ship has an average age of 65. I dont think it is Carnival, though it may be one of the other companies they own. Every cruise I have been on I would have to say the average is about 40 to 45. But either way, i really do not belive it is "common for someone to die on a cruise" it does happen but not that it is common or day to day. Just my 2 cents worth.[/quote]

Actually it is more common than you might think. In fact many upscale cruise lines that have an older passenger base carry coffins onboard just in case.

Do not think that just because a person is only 40 that they cannot have a heart attack and die. Several years ago on a Princess cruise in Australia we heard a code called and later learned the entertainer in the piano lounge had a heart attack and died. Many of us had frequented that lounge and got to know him and were shocked. He was only 36. There was even a memorial service a couple of days later.
 
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randk

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i realize that anybody at anytime can die. No matter the age, 1 minute to 125 years old. That was not the point. the point was Dokken made it sound as if most of the cruise passengers where just minutes or hours from death. I still do not believe it is as common as what he painted. I know people die on cruises but I believe it is rare instead of common.
Just my 1 cent worth.
 
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Jamman

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Last year on our Carnival Legend cruise out of NYC, a man in his mid 50's collapsed and died at one of the Lido deck bars, before we had even sailed. Delayed our departure about 3 hours, but nobody compained because word of what had happened quickly spread around the ship. Talked to some of the crew, and was told that a death aboard ship occurs from time to time, and is not a rare occurance.
 
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Gayle V

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Hello Rank,

I do believe it is more common than you might think. Out of 15 cruises so far, we've had two deaths that we know of. (and I have to believe there may have been other incidences where the information never reached us.) Two out of 15 is not exactly "frequent" but often enough that the cruise lines are prepared.

And if our experience is the norm, and if you multiply those numbers by the the total number of ships cruising every week, you probably CAN say deaths happen on ships everyday.
 
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randk

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OK everybody, I give up, I surrender, I (man this is hard to say) might be wrong.LOL We have been very very fortunate in all of our cruising not to have had anyone pass away, (that we know or have heard of). I just did not beleive that it could be an everyday accordance on the ships. Oh well I learned something new today. Just think how many dead people than are flying in airplanes right now. (with all of the people flying and the ages of them, and the number of planes in the air right now world wide. Wow that is a lot or could be alot of people dying up there right now. ( OK folks that last part is joking around not to be taken serious lets all have a good laugh and remember joking is good) LOL
 
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Irish Girl

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Actually, all cruise ships carry coffins just in case someone dies. I was on one cruise that a member of our group, age 41, had a heart attack and died after we left Cozumel. They took his body off at the next U.S. port which was New Orleans, all of us, including his wife continued to the end of the cruise in Tampa.

It is quite common for deaths to happen on board.
 
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randk

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If he was dead than why not just take his body to Tampa, 2) why did his wife not accompany the body home, 3) If they were just looking for the nearest US port would it not have been easier to have done Key West instead of 6 hours up and 6 hours down the Mississippi river back to the gulf. Just wandering. (and please do not beat up more for asking the questions. LOL)
 
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Gayle V

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I too find it unfathomable that the man's wife continued on with her cruise after her husband died. :dizzy

As for the New Orleans stop, just guessing here, but maybe that was a scheduled stop, like she wrote, "the next U.S. port". In that case, it would be the easiest thing to do.
 
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randk

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Ok for the New Orleans stop. I know they did go there on cruises from Tampa. So now we have 2 questions left.
 
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SandyBeach

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Maybe it was less expensive for the wife to make her way to Tampa by way of the ship - not having to pay airfare. (I believe they stop there the next day - after NO.) I'm guessing their is some rule that says they can only transport the body to their next US stop. Perhaps if it hadn't stopped in NO - as that particular cruise did/does - then the body would have ended up in Tampa. I've also heard of them flying the bodies home from foreign ports although I have no idea how much that would cost. Trip insurance covers some of that - I think - perhaps she didn't have any.

randk...you make a very good point with the airplanes...except that you are generally only on them for a couple of hours at a time. The frequency of deaths might rise on flights over 6/8 hours. It would be interesting to see if anyone has kept any figures compiled on either natural deaths aboard ships or on planes.
 
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Irish Girl

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Bodies are removed from the ship at the first scheduled U.S. port after the death. Our next stop from Cozumel was New Orleans, so that's where the body was removed. Arrangements were made to ship the body home to Idaho. The wife continued on to Tampa where we disembarked and she had family waiting.

As for insurance, I'm sure they had it as he always paid with a Platinum credit card.
 
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John

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Hi Everyone, I have something to add to this. It was reported that three people had passed away on our last cruise. One person had a heart attack in the buffet area.. and it was a 10-Night cruise. When you add up all the variables its unfortunately more common than we'd like to think about. The news media has also been reporting about passengers passing away on long flights and the bodies being moved to first class recently.

I know the ships have morgues onboard, as well as mini-jails. Its like a small city at sea. As most of us go through life and we try not to think about the nagetive things such as death or illness around us. Unofortunately a vacation doesn't stop these things.. even for 10-nights.

Cruise ship's also are burdened by another reality. In the past and I'd say also the present.. when people get very ill, the Doctor and family recommend the person take a cruise or special vacation before they get more ill or pass on. If you take this reality as well as people being stressed by travel... changing their diets with food and alcohol (sometimes in excess).. as well as the larger number or over 60 passengers and you could see why it could be more common than a small town.
 
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