Passenger Overboard?

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Cruzingracie

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Has anyone heard much more about the man who fell overboard from a CCL ship last night? The story is amazing -- he doesn't remember a thing except waking up in the water and treading water for 17 hours. God was definitely with him.

It also amazes me that CCL hasn't offered him another cruise -- does anyone find that strange?
 
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moosecruisercutie

Guest
what I find strange is that he didn't remember.....

the article mentioned he was with 2 girls...what were their comments...where were they when he fell....

everything just sounds really fishy to me (no pun intended) I'm not saying he jumped....but I question weather he was intoxicated....and slipped....or was accidentally bumped by the women...he was supposidly walking with.....
although he could have just slipped....

since it was no fault of carnival that he fell....carnival shouldn't compinsate him....
although....I'm nervous now....are the railings that bad....are they that low or faulty....if they are he should be given at least part of his money back....I mean while every one else was sleeping in there beds and enjoying the ship...this poor guy was floating in the water praying that he wouldn't die....

he sure is a lucky guy...i'll say that....this kinda makes for a good easter story as well....

just my 2 cents....

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frito

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Are the rails bad---are they low or faulty---

After 22 cruises I have yet to see the railings bad, faulty or too low. You couldn't beat your way through one with a hammer.
We will never know what happened but to suggest faulty railings, low raiings , etc.in my opinion is way off base.
More than likely the guy knows what happened and won't say-- And, more than likely he was loaded to the gills.
Carnival shouldn't even think about any compensation.
 
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Star Cruisers

Guest
Yes, this story sounds fishy to me, too. And you're right that we'll never really know what happened. Don't you think that his friend would have been looking for him and reported that he was missing, especially if they were sharing a cabin? Just glad he survived and was rescued. That was the amazing part.
 
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*Gidget*

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i bet his friend thought he hooked up with the girls and spend the nite in there cabin
 
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OBFam

Guest
My immediate gut response to this situation is in agreement with both the poster who thought he was probably loaded, too. And the thing about walking with the two women is just strange. They must have been loaded, too, not to have noticed that the guy they were just with has "disappeared". I bet if he was loaded, though, he sobered up real quick once he woke up and realized he was in the water. Sounds like he had a real spiritual awakening, too (who wouldn't? you know, the whole thing - no athiests in foxholes, etc.). I'm just glad he's okay. I can't imagining (and I'm a former lifeguard) treading water for 17 hours!

JO
 
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gsamml

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Loaded? He was hammered. Why did the person who he was sharing a cabin with, his supposed best friend, wait until late the next day to report him missing? What a bunch of morons.

As an avid swimmer and scuba diver, I have to admire the guy for being able to tread water for so long. But when your life is on the line, the human body can do some amazing things.

I think the only reason the sharks didn't turn him into fish food is that he was so pickled he smelled like bad sushi.
 
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Sara Lee

Guest
Thanks for the welcome to all .

I was riding to Atlanta today and a radio station had an interview with this guy that fell overboard . He stated he went to the casino and then went outside and the next thing he remembers is being in the water.

The radio station personalitys were wondering why Carnival did not have sensors onboard .They stated that Royal Carribean had sensors that would tell if you threw a paper cup overboard .

Now the guy went on to say he fell 10 stories , that is a long way .. if you fell ten stories to hard pavement , you might be knocked out or dead ...

They asked him several weird questions .. One guy asked him did he releive him self while floating out there and of course the dude said YES ..

I dont know if he was taking an ocean survey or what or a survey of would you invite this guy to your next pool party .

But this guy also said he did not remember anything but waking up in the water and he did not really want to remember .

He said either he would be upset that he himself did something dumb or someone else did something to him . He also was asked if Carnival gave him a free vacation and he say he could not talk about it or discuss those matters of the incident so I wonder if he is going to sue Carnival for falling off the ship ..

My husband and myself were standing out on deck in April on the Fantasy and we thought hmmmmmm you could fall off this ship real easy .. There was not a whole lot to prevent you from falling . except your brain.

He also stated he was only worried for a few minutes about sharks and stuff when he saw some jellyfish near him .. Said he had had a few drinks and had only been on the cruise for about 7 hours before he fell and his friend thought perhaps he had met a girl or something when he did not return that night .. He was not in any hurry to go on a cruise ship immediately , too tired he said .

Sara Lee
 
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Kris_stoker

Guest
It all sounds little fishing to me as well.

You would have to drink awful lot to not reliaze what you are doing at all. You would hope that someone would notice you couldn't walk by that point.

I don't agree that carnival should change there ships cause of this moron. But he was actually so drunk, that he couldn't even think striaght, and all sense of logic was gone from him, how come no one on the ship noticed, security/bar tenders/ crew memebers.

I don't believe this guy walked around so drunk, that he couldn't even function on a 5th grade level, and noone who worked for carnival said anything. If that is the case, and carnival did not reponded to a CLEARLY over intoxicated state, then they are liable and he can sue them. Its sounds retarded, but they have a responiblity to protect dumbass againt themselves. The fact that they most likely served him the booze, makes them a clearly liable target.
 
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frito

Guest
You can count on the guy suing Carnival and maybe anyone else remotely related to his fiasco. Why not start with the travel agent or on-line booking co. he booked the cruise with and go from there?

Sara Lee mentioned the " radio personalities " saying that Royal Caribbean had sensors that could detect even a cup that went overboard. I seriously wonder if the
" personalities " have ever been on a cruise and very seriously doubt that RCCL or anyone else has anything like that. If so, wonder why the Navy doesn't ?

I don't think it's the responsibility of the cruise lines to station guards every few feet on the deck to make sure some drunk doesn't flop himself off the ship. If that happens, what next---guards 24 / 7 with each passenger on their balconys ?

For someone to fall of a ship, drunk or sober, they have to be doing something they shouldn't be doing such as climbing or sitting on a rail, etc.
If this guy can drink himself to the point he doesn't remember anything, I wonder how many times he has driven in that shape? Sure would hate to meet him on the way home some night.
 
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Kris_stoker

Guest
I agree with Frito.

I've never heard of a detection systems that can tell if a paper cup goes over board. I would think that would be extermely expensive, and cause a million false alarms.

This guy was a typical dumbass, and is going to sue. And some people will think he deserves the money, but he really doesn't. You will have to work for the rest of your lives, while he continues to do stupid things and has the money to do whatever he wants.

That's the funny about these jury's, they give all this money to these so called victums, but guess who is going to pay for this, not carnival, we are, the price of drinks, or the cruise itself will go up in price to pay for that moron who jump overboard.
 
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Sara Lee

Guest
I will try to find the radio station again on the way home and find its call numbers.... It is located somewhere near macon or at least that is about where it started coming in ..

The guys who interviewed this guy said they had sailed with Royal Carribean on several cruises for thier show and other events and they did say they have a dectection device ...

I also wonder about it and will try to find out some information on it or if a detection device exist .. They did not seem to be joking on that matter....

I do know this guy would not talk about what happened , just said he didnt remember ..except being in the casino and leaving the casino ..Hey maybe he won something and someone took the money and threw him overboard ????

He did not mention in this radio interview about the 2 girls walking with him that I have seen reported in other places .. .. That would bring up another matter.... Why did they not report him falling overboard if they were walking with him .. ?

Also he would not talk about a suit towards Carnival or anything that carnival was going to do as far as he said , he wouldnt talk about that ..But it left the listnener with the thoughts that he might sue .....and was told not to discuss this .. They also mentioned that Carnival said it was an accident but the coast quard and FBI had not really made an official statement on that as of yet , although I notice that on the article on here or from the paper say that all said it was an accident so I dont know for sure if all of the reports agree as of yet ...


He also said that as I said in last note , he thought he did not want to remember anything because if he did ,

He would either realize he did SOMETHING STUPID or someone DID SOMETHING TO HIM and either way he didnt want to know of it ..

Now I must say again .. Water when hit hard can be like hitting cement I would imagine and this was a long fall 10 stories..... I remember talking to my husband on our last cruise as we were on the top deck looking out at sea at night and no one was around us at all , as I said and we talked of how if someone fell , it would be like hitting a hard surface and you probably would be lucky to survive the fall ..

I moved away from the rail at that point and we both made the comment of how we never had heard of anyone fall from a ship before and yet it would seem so easy to just push someone off of a ship and no one would know ..

BUT I WASNT ON THIS CRUISE with this man so dont look at me

Sara Lee
 
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Kris_stoker

Guest
Here's what I think.

Ok, we know he is drunk as hell. I bet he tried to walk back to his room or something, decided he had to puke, and leaned over the railing, puked so much that he got dizzy, and with the blood rushing to his head, just fell over board.

Cause I'll tell you what, when I puke after drinking, i have no energy to hold my body, sometimes you puke so violently that the toliet seat stuck to your forehead is the only thing that keeps you from drowning.

Those are my thoughts. He puked so hard and so much over the railing while hanging over it, that he just went a little too far.

why he didn't die, is cause he was probably so drunk, that his body just took the impact with no struggle at all. I've heard of drunk drivers being so drunk, that they fly through the windshield of the car and don't ever get a broken bone because they have no resistence to fight the motion and therefore they take the path of least resistence through the car.

We can agree he is lucky as hell to be alive.
 
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frito

Guest
Sara lee, you wouldn't be talking about the " John Boy and Billy " show would you ?
I love to listen to them. They are nutty to an extent and I can just hear them mentioning something about some kind of "detection device" on a ship.
I think they are based in N.Carolina but their show is broadcast over a wide area.
 
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Sara Lee

Guest
You know I think that is thier names .... .I had just tuned it in while fiddling with the radio and they had some weird names .. But I do believe that is the show ..

I could find out I suppose by going on the radio board or something to see if they had this guy on as a quest on Tuesday ..

But after reading the last posters view of what happened , that does sound likely ..


He just got sick .. You know it was his first cruise and he was drinking admittedly ..

That would explain why he fell over board and also as the poster said , it would explain why he didnt get hurt during the fall

He was GUMBY OVERBOARD ..

Sara Lee
 
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