Sailing Carnival... missing the boat?!

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Sophie

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We are sailing again in a couple of weeks and are thinking of missing the boat in Cozumel, then flying home a few days later... other than we are responsible for ourselves while in Cozumel and getting home, anyone know of any issues that could come from this? We have my parents who will get our luggage that we leave behind...etc. Kinda off the wall question I know, but any info is appreciated. Thanks, Sophie :)
 
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Cruizer

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It would be nice if you tell Carnival of your plans, so that they don't think you fell overboard.
 
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Sophie

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yes carnival will be aware of why we are not on the boat if we choose to stay in port then fly home
 
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bOB

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Couple of things come to mind, first, not sure Carnival will be happy about being a ferry service, as there are customs and immigration issues to be dealt with as far as the way you are entering Mexico, and once you walk off the ship with no intent to return, you HAVE entered Mexico. Second, though a nice idea to have your parents pick up you luggage, but when it is off loaded it is in a secure area within customs, an area where your parents will not have access to, better would be to travel light and keep your luggage with you, if Carnival lets you do this they will let you take your luggage with you, that will be the least of the issues. Better do a lot of homework on this and have all the ducks lined up
 
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cristacp25

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when I went to the Bahamas a woman and her 3 children stayed in the bahamas with family....all they had to do was check out ...they didn't give her a hard time but they kept saying "ARE YOU SURE MAAM?" but she was sure, so she stayed .....not sure if she had a passport or not, and Mexico may be a different story.
 
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Calgon1

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Personal opinion? I think you're making a mistake. That said, I'm sure you're also familiar with the saying that, "opinions are like ..." Likewise, please remember that you asked....

If nothing else, by doing something completely "out of the ordinary" you are drawing attention to yourself and could be intrepretred as "suspicious behavior". This could result in a much more compehensive inspection, questioning, delay and other "official" intrest. Not alwaqys a 'good thing' when in a foreign country...
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And, while you're checking w/US CBP (Customs and Border Protection), you might want to consider also checking with The Mexican Embassy or Consulate, at: http://www.mexonline.com/consulate.htm.

To enter Mexico, you will need either a valid passport or your original birth certificate along with a valid photo ID such as a drivers license. Citizens other than U.S. or Canadian may have other requirements such as a visa. Please contact a Mexican consulate or embassy near you.

NOTE: If you are entering Mexico by any means other than airlines or cruise ship (see below) and staying for over 72 hours and/or traveling more than 20 miles beyond the border, you will need a Tourist Card.

For those of you entering on an airline or cruise, your identification must be presented at the airline/cruise check-in. Once on the plane/ship you will be given two forms to fill out - one for Immigration (Tourist Card) and another for Customs (Customs Declaration Form). There are restrictions as to what you can bring to Mexico......Some of these restrictions are limits for "duty free" and some are absolute, such as firearms without a permit not to mention drugs (do not bring either into Mexico).

All tourists traveling to Mexico have the right to take with them their personal luggage duty free. Most commonly encountered restrictions are (import duties could be assessed if you exceed these amounts):
Some food items - especially plants and seeds
Cigars and cigarettes - up to 20 packs per person
Liquor and wine - up to 3 liters per person
Film or videocassettes - up to 12 rolls/cassettes
Medicine for personal use - must have a prescription if the medicine is psychotropic or if you needed one to get the medicine in the first place
Illegal controlled substances & drugs - a no no!
Firearms - only for hunting and must obtain a permit from the Mexican Consulate in advance

The Immigration counter is your first stop after you disembark the plane/ship. Here you will have to present your passport (or birth certificate) along with the Tourist Visa you filled out. Your tourist visa and passport will be stamped to make your arrival official. (You will need to keep your passport and tourist visa with you at all times while in Mexico - make copies in case you lose your originals). Next proceed to the baggage claim area for your luggage.

Customs is the last step, here you will need to have your Customs Declaration Form handy (the other form you were given on the plane/ship). Mexico has adopted a "Red Light - Green Light" system for customs. If you have put "Nothing to declare" on this form, you will be asked to push a button....... If the light is green you can exit without inspection; if the light is red you will be subject to inspection. This is a random system, and therefore there is no way to know whether you will get a green or red light. Consequently you need to be honest on your Customs Declaration and declare anything over and above what is allowed, paying all applicable duties. If you do not, and are caught by a red light, the fines may be very steep. One note, Mexican customs officials may assume you know about the "Red Light - Green Light" system and not say a word. No problem, step up & push the button.

Entering By Land

All of the above applies to those who enter by land. Other than picking up your Tourist Visa/Card and having the proper identification, the only difference is the "green light - red light" system. If you are driving, the lights will be in the lane you cross in. Look for yours and if it's green, then drive away. If it's red (and there should be a bell or buzzer sounding) then you need to pull over to the Customs (you'll be pointed in the direction by an officer) area for an inspection.

Same process for those of you walking in to Mexico. More than likely you will be directed to push the button on a solitary "stoplight" with the same system as other entries. Some busy border crossings like Tijuana and Ciudad Juarez may not have you push the button unless you have packages. It's the Customs officials decision. These borders are so busy with tourists and locals crossing back and forth that it would be almost impossible to have everyone do this so they will randomly select people to push the button.
 
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bOB

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Last time I went through that I got a yellow light.............
The customs inspector said. "get out of here, that never happens"
So I left............
 
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cherbeth

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Hello> They just came out last night with a TRAVEL WARNING for MEXICO!!!!!!!!!

I would not think that this would be a good idea at all seeing what is happending in Mexico over drug wars.

Cheryl
 
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Mbandy

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The drug problems are more in the interior of the mainland and not on the island of Cozumel. Having said that, jumping ship and staying on the island is not a great idea. Technically, you'd be entering the country illeagally and that could pose a problem when leaving.
 
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Luci

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THE WORSE THING YOU CAN DO IS TO JUMP SHIP IN MEXICO. You are asking for trouble from the Mexican Customs because you MUST HAVE A Tourist VISA.
If you don't have one they will charge you a $100. each to leave Mexico. They will also interrigate you on why you jumped ship and why you chose Cozumel.
They will just harrass you until you give them all of your money in your pocket. That happened to a friend of mine. He never went back to Mexico.

I am Mexican-American and I know how the Mexican Customs works. I also know for a fact that the Cozumel police will always take the side of the thieves in Cozumel.
I have been to Cozumel and have seen the abuse. The people there don't really like us tourists. They talk bad about us tourists and are jealous that we have money.

Plus, Mexico has gone downhill economically recently and really need money. Things will be cheaper for us Americans to buy in Mexico.

BE HONEST WITH CARNIVAL so they can give you the best advise for you. I have seen Canadian cruisers get off the ships in the Victoria B.C. port. They walked off with their luggage in hand. I am sure they were given permission to disembark the ship legally. Our next and final port was Vancouver.
 
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Missou

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As long as you make sure all your papers are valid, that you can show an address where you are going to stay and a return ticket to go back home, I don't see why there would be a problem. The important thing is not to play games. Honesty is your best choice.
 
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Luci

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Mbandy, thank you and I hope people believe what I am saying about Mexico. Presently Mexico has been having a lot of problems with the drug lords.
The good policemen and the good politicians are being killed off. The rich people in Mexico are starting to move out of Mexico because they keep getting
kidnapped over and over for money. It is a lawless country.

I truly hate it when I see the police who wear brown pants and white shirts stopping the taxi drivers in Matzatclan asking them for money after they drop off the cruiseship tourists.
Next time you go to Matzatclan notice as you are leaving the port or coming back how the police block the street so the taxi drivers can escape without giving them money.

Since I live in the West Coast I cruise a lot to Mex-Riviera ports. I still like Mexico but I stay in the safe areas. Plus, since I am Mexican-American the people don't bother me but they do tell me the news of Mexico when I ask them.

Some of the sales people who work near the ports already know me and they ask me questions about going on a cruise ship. I do have fun in Mexico as long as I don't eat the food. I do buy bottled sodas in Mexico. Their cokes are made with real sugar cane since Mexico grows sugar cane. It has a different flavor.
 
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Dan40

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Sophie said:
We are sailing again in a couple of weeks and are thinking of missing the boat in Cozumel, then flying home a few days later... other than we are responsible for ourselves while in Cozumel and getting home, anyone know of any issues that could come from this? We have my parents who will get our luggage that we leave behind...etc. Kinda off the wall question I know, but any info is appreciated. Thanks, Sophie :)

Carefully read Carnival's cruises contract. You could be liable for any fines they have to pay under the Passenger Services Act. [also known as the Jones Act]
[$350.00 per person}

Also you will have to have a US Passport.. Not for the cruise, but to FLY back to the US, it is required.

I think getting off a ship from the US in San Juan PR or St. Thomas is no big deal since they are US Territories.

Dan
 
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TG_1_RN4U

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Sophie, Why bother with the cruise?? Why don't you just book a stay in Cozumel and be done with it?? I don't get it??
 
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