What is Carnival's policy regarding non-potty trained kids and pools?

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HeavenLeighGirl

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Hi, I wasn't sure if I should post this in the Carnival forum or the Family one. I'm trying here...I hope that's okay.

The subject sums it up: What is Carnival's policy regarding non-potty trained kids and pools?

I'm traveling with my toddler and want to know is she'll be able to partipate pool activities. We'll be on the conquest. I know there is a kiddie pool that she'll be able to use (well, actually, I guess I'm assuming she will able to???). But, will she be able to go in the main pool, too?

If the policy states that she won't be able to swim in the main pool, how strictly is that policy enforced?

Thanks! :)
 
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jleq1

Guest
No non-potty trained...even with "swim diapers". Policy appears to be strixtly enforced. Pools, which are "salt water", are not chlorinated.
 
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Mbandy

Guest
Non potty trained children are not allowed in any of the ships' pools. The rule is strictly enforced because of the potential danger of norovirus outbreaks. Wish I had better news. :(
 
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HeavenLeighGirl

Guest
Oh, no! I'm bummed. I was envisioning hangning out by the pool on sea days. (td)

So, what about the kiddie pool? Will she be allowed there?
 
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Mbandy

Guest
Unfortunately not even in the Kiddie pool. Here is the exact wording from Carnival's web site.

Use of the Pools:

Due to United States Public Health (USPH) Regulations, we do not allow children in diapers or those not toilet-trained in the pools.

I can tell you from first hand experience that Carnival is extremely strict in enforcing any public health regulations. On our last trip my girlfriend went to the ship's doctor to get some immodium for a very mild case of diarrhea. They quarrentined her to our cabin for 24 hours.

Again, wish I had better news but I know you'll =funsign on Conquest.
 
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amistad

Guest
I have never taken a small child, but last October we were on the Holland America ship Westerdam and everyday that I went to the pool there was a couple with an infant about 6 months old in the main pool. I never saw anyone tell them to remove the child and they had her in a little floating device that had a cover, they would stay out for several hours. I don't know if HAL has a different policy or if they were just very laid back on that particular cruise.
 
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Babushka

Guest
I don't think it's a good idea to take a child that is not potty trained into the pools, even the kiddie pools. On one of our Carnival cruises they closed one of the pools down for the day because a child that was not potty trained went in the pool. There were a lot of people that were unhappy because they were not able to use the pool. I personally would not want to be responsible for something like that. I'm sure you can still have a good time with your baby if you're not in the pool. I know that's not what you want to hear but I believe it's for the safety of others. Could be different cruise lines have different policies.
 
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docken2000

Guest
We brought our 2.5 year old to the kid pool on the legend, there were many others about the same age and no ones said a word. We had swim diapers on him, and the kid pool was in a remote location. In fact there was not anyone to enforce anything. But, I must say, this was about 3 years ago before most of all the huge illnesses occurred on the ships, So things may be different now. So give it a try.
 
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nimbex

Guest
I'm a bit ignorant here... do the "diapers" prevent urine and feces from entering the pool? If so, I don't understand how "contamination can occur. I'm just having an impossible time imagining how the "diapers" would work with urine??? If they do, it seems there must be a policy that if the kids are wearing them it would be fine. Even better than the young ones without them... who have "accidents".

I just can't say how others would feel swimming in the same water if they weren't sure how the pants worked like myself, if there was a policy against it... someone might insist on alternatives.

Wish I could give you a concrete answer, just food for thought=huh

I've never thought about it until you asked, try calling CCL... they've come across you question before.
 
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TampaMike

Guest
"If the policy states that she won't be able to swim in the main pool, how strictly is that policy enforced?"

This might sound harsh, but why would anyone even consider taking a baby that isn't toilet trained yet into a publicly shared pool? Does the health and welfare of other guests rank so low as to risk a health hazard for the personal enjoyment of you and your child? Pertaining to this subject, the rules are in place for a good reason and questioning how strictly they are enforced sounds incredibly selfish and irresponsible to me.
 
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suseg

Guest
[quote TampaMike]"If the policy states that she won't be able to swim in the main pool, how strictly is that policy enforced?"

This might sound harsh, but why would anyone even consider taking a baby that isn't toilet trained yet into a publicly shared pool? Does the health and welfare of other guests rank so low as to risk a health hazard for the personal enjoyment of you and your child? Pertaining to this subject, the rules are in place for a good reason and questioning how strictly they are enforced sounds incredibly selfish and irresponsible to me.[/quote]

I'm a "Grammie" and I love children however I must agree with the above poster. As previously stated the pools are filled with saltwater and not chlorinated, would you want your child to swim in another's waste? Why not bring a small "blow up" pool for your child's use? They are easily packed and I would think that you would be allowed to use it, especially in the area where they have the kiddies pool. I have a vague memory of a kiddies pool which had a large sprinkler rather than being filled, on one of my cruises, which (if this is the case) might also be an option.
 
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frito

Guest
TampaMike said exactly the same things I was thinking. Why would anyone with any consideration for others even think about putting a baby that's not potty trained into a pool where other people, both kids and grown-ups will be exposed to it's bodily secretions ??

Is it any different for a baby to crap in a pool used by others than an 18 or 30 or 70 year old person ?? No-- not really. If the baby isn't potty trained then out of common decency keep it out of the pool.
 
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aprilivy

Guest
HOLY COW PEOPLE!
I have heard people tell their kids to just "pee in the pool" rather than take them to the rest room...so, if you think you're free of problems like this in a public pool...dream on!!

GRANDMA!
 
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lainie

Guest
So then the rules may be broken and it's no problem because people pee in swimming pools all the time?
 
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frito

Guest
Ok--so if a 50 year old decides to crap in the pool then it's ok and you wouldn't mind putting your baby in there with it, right?
If not then what's the difference ? No one, young or old should have to be exposed to someone elses bathroom breaks in the pool.
Seems pretty much a common sense thing to me.
 
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suseg

Guest
I may be wrong, and I often am, but I think the OP did not realize that the pools are not chlorinated. One of the reasons public pools are so highly chlorinated is because of the waste issue, but even then they are closed if someone defecates. I know that we add extra chlorine to our pool when our grandchildren are here, accidents do happen. I'm sorry the news and views aren't better.

Mbandy...WOW! While I'm sure being stuck in your cabin wasn't fun I think I'm impressed with Carnival for taking the action to quarantine, I am really shocked. *note to self* make sure to bring my own immodium onboard.
 
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aprilivy

Guest
Not at all what I said...
Just think the comments were getting a little out of hand. It was an innocent question that people were getting a little ugly about.
I've been on 3 other Carnival cruises and I didn't realize the pools are not chlorinated, either.
Whether potty trained or not potty trained - common sense needs to rule here. I would take a 2 year old in the pool with the swim diapers on - even if potty trained. It at least will protect from some accidents.
I don't think anyone's intent was to contaminate anything for anyone and I always think we should give someone the benefit of the doubt before giving a rude answer such as some I read here...
 
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WETSUIT

Guest
Hi, new to the board, just returned from 5 day on the inspiration Jan 15th through the 20th, we took along an inflatable kiddie pool, filled it up with water from the pools and hot tubs using buckets from the bar. Our 11 month old loved having her own pool and we found a place where she was in the shade and betwwen mommy and daddys deck chairs. No one said a thing, infact officers walked by without the slightest glance, others in the pools asked what we were doing when I filled buckets with water from the pools and actually appreciated us keeping out our 11 month old non-potty trained daughter out of the pools. after she was done, mind you we didn't fill the pool all the way up, we simply dragged it over to the rail where the inspiration has drains that the deck staff use at night to spray off the decks. in addition we were actually concerned about maybe our daughter actually used the bathroom in her pool and where the drains went along the rail? A deck staff told us with the amount of bird poop they sometimes spray into the drains, a little kiddie pool water wont hurt anything. Lastly instead of throwing the pool away on our return trip, Camp Carnival took it in donation...sorry so long
 
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suseg

Guest
that was a great idea, especially donating it to camp carnival...i wonder what they'll do with it.
 
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WETSUIT

Guest
Camp Carnival felt they might be able to use it in their pool activities, One of the staff felt they might use it in the pool as some sort of target for the children to throw balls into it from around the pool.
 
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