tipping on carnival

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cruisaddct04

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Hello everyone! I know this has been discussed many times before but here I go again!!
We are going on the Elation june 4th. I am traveling with 2 adults 2 kids. We elected not to automatically be charged tipping, when we booked. When we get onboard they are not going to charge us automatically on our ship card ,are they? The carnival Rep didn't make it clear. I have read that the houseman would rather be tipped cash and the waiters -being that they have to wait 1 month for credit to go through. We can just tip them on our own, right? I rather tip what I feel is appropriate!!! Please help clarify this. Thanks for any help
 
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BlueChef

Guest
Yes, the automatic tips WILL be the first entry on your Sail & Sign account. Your agent should have made that clear.

However, if you choose, you can have these auto tips removed. (Not a great idea - because when you remove their auto tips and tip them in cash, those tips have to be POOLED, and they do not get the amount they are due.) The best way and what MOST people do is to leave the tips in place, and tip a little extra if you'd like to some individuals.

The $10 per person per day is a VERY fair amount. You will be doing the crew a great disservice if you remove the tips.

This policy was put in place several years ago. This was done because too many people didn't tip very much or NOT AT ALL, stiffing those hard working crew members.

BTW, the "houseman" is referred to as a CABIN STEWARD.

Leave the auto tips in place. It's the only fair way to do it. Have a great cruise!
 
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serene56

Guest
Also- when leaving the tips on the card the crew member gets the money direct deposited into their accounts where their family has instand access to the money.

If service is above what is expected we tip extra in cash at the end in a thank you card.

BlueChef- I asked that question on the Liberty inFebruary and the 3 members I asked stated cash tips are not pooled for waiters asst waiters and cabin stewards. Lots of people get that idea since cabin stewards must pay their helpers out of their tips from the passengers.
Bar waiters are pooling the automatic tip BUT they have a per day drink quota they must fill.
 
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Babushka

Guest
$70 per person will be deducted from your sign and sail card. That will go towards you cabin steward, head waiter and assistant waiter. I can't remember if it goes towards anyone else. When talking with our asst. waiter she told us that the waiter portion of the tips is divided with 60% of the tip going to the head waiter and 40% going to the asst. waiter. Carnival asks that you tip the Maitre D since a tip is not included for them. We did tip extra to both our waiters and cabin steward and we also tipped the Maitre D. You can also tip anyone else you feel gave especially good service. We tipped the girl at the specialty coffee/dessert cafe.
 
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cruisaddct04

Guest
Everyone thanks for the information. Yes, they want to charge us $280 for 4 of us! I just thought the kids would be a different charge than adults.
 
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mizzou_racer

Guest
BlueChef

I do not make sense to me that the cash that I give to my waiter or room steward would have to be shared with the other waiters or stewards.

It has been my practice since the automatic tipping process started a few years ago, is to remove the auto tips and give cash to my wait staff and steward.

I do understand that some people do not tip the recommended amount and the automatic tipping may help prevent someone from "forgetting" to tip.
 
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serene56

Guest
[quote cruisaddct04]Everyone thanks for the information. Yes, they want to charge us $280 for 4 of us! I just thought the kids would be a different charge than adults.[/quote]

i dont know why you would think kids are charged at a cheaper rate that an adult- they will get the same service as you. (actually kids get more service the you will --lol their beds will be made the same as yours. and the kids will appreciate the towel animals better then you would.

Is your agent charging you tips with your final payment to prepay your tips???
 
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Cruizer

Guest
[quote serene56][quote cruisaddct04]Everyone thanks for the information. Yes, they want to charge us $280 for 4 of us! I just thought the kids would be a different charge than adults.[/quote]

i dont know why you would think kids are charged at a cheaper rate that an adult- they will get the same service as you. (actually kids get more service the you will --lol their beds will be made the same as yours. and the kids will appreciate the towel animals better then you would.

Is your agent charging you tips with your final payment to prepay your tips???[/quote]

Many cruise lines recommend 50% of the adult tip for children under 12. The Carnival web site is down right now, so I cannot check to see what Carnival says.
 
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Cruizer

Guest
Well, Serene56 is correct. Carnival does not charge tips for under two. However, Carnival does not suggested a reduced tip for children under twelve. The site is up again. Here is Carnival's policy regarding tips ...

What is the tipping policy onboard?

Guests can pay their shipboard gratuities in one of two ways:

1. Reverse Gratuity Policy - For our guests' convenience, we automatically add the recommended gratuities to the onboard Sail & Sign account on embarkation day.

Guests will have the discretion to adjust these gratuities based upon the level of service received during the cruise. This includes the option to adjust gratuities (up or down) for any individual on the Dining or Housekeeping staff. In order to do so, the guest will need to visit the Information Desk on board.

2. Pre-Paid Gratuity Policy - Gratuities are pre-arranged and paid at the time of booking or any time up to two weeks prior to the sail date.

All guests on each booking must prepay the gratuities, with the exception of children under two. The pre-paid gratuities can not be removed once the booking has been ticketed. The guest will not have the option to adjust the gratuities (up or down) based on the level of service received during the cruise.

The dollar amount of the gratuities will appear in the Miscellaneous Charge field on the booking. The guest copy on the cruise ticket will indicate if gratuities have been paid.

The total amount will be $10 per guest, per day, which breaks down as follows:

* $5.50 pp/pd for Dining Team Service (Headwaiter and Waiter)
* $1 pp/pd for Bistro Service (Waiter/Cooks)
* $3.50 pp/pd for Cabin Services (Cabin Steward)

Tipping the Maitre D' is strictly at guest's discretion, based upon services rendered. For guests who wish to extend this gratuity in cash, an envelope will be available on the last evening of the cruise.

Tipping still applies regardless of the dining options selected, such as eating at the casual dining restaurant or utilizing room service.

Bar Waiters, Deck Stewards and Bell Boys - Certain personnel, as noted above, may be tipped as service is rendered. A 15% gratuity is automatically added to beverage purchases which the guest may adjust appropriate to the service received.

Note: Guests under two years of age are not required to extend gratuities.


CORRECTION: Though in the past I have found cruise lines recommending 50% of the adult gratuity for children under twelve, none of the web sites I check today have that language any more. So the recommened gratuity for ALL passengers over the age of two is the same.
 
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serene56

Guest
The reason being is the cruiselines I look at Carnival, Royal and Princess do not look at people according to age. EVERYone is a passenger from age 2 through whatever.
(I think Disney has a guideline for their kids)
that is why the wording.
 
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buck_i_chic

Guest
I cannot remember from last year but what if I do not eat in the dining area? Will I still have to tip them?
 
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Cruizer

Guest
[quote buck_i_chic]I cannot remember from last year but what if I do not eat in the dining area? Will I still have to tip them?[/quote]

Yes. See the following in my prior post where I quote the Carnival web site ...

"Tipping still applies regardless of the dining options selected, such as eating at the casual dining restaurant or utilizing room service. "

The wait staff rotates between the dining room and the buffet. I believe that is one of the reason the tips are pooled (if they are pooled). Because you are getting service from some people you do not see every night at meal time.
 
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serene56

Guest
you will also see your asst waiter doing time at the buffet during his off time in the dining area.

and someone on the buffet will be cleaning up your table, helping putout the foods on the line, making sure the drink machines are filled, silverware is handy, etc etc
 
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BlueChef

Guest
Just a little FYI - When talking about your headwaiter and waiter, there's a misconception here.

The people serving you at your table are the waiter and his assistant. The headwaiter is a different person altogether; he does not serve food. The chain of command in a formal dining room is:

Maitre d'
Headwaiter
Table waiter
Assistant waiter
 
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BlueChef

Guest
[quote serene56]
BlueChef- I asked that question on the Liberty inFebruary and the 3 members I asked stated cash tips are not pooled for waiters asst waiters and cabin stewards. Lots of people get that idea since cabin stewards must pay their helpers out of their tips from the passengers.
Bar waiters are pooling the automatic tip BUT they have a per day drink quota they must fill.[/quote]

This is not what I've been told by several crew members. They've said that IF the S&S auto tips are removed, they must pool the cash they receive.

Another interesting thing I learned from a cruise director is: IF any crew member (cabin steward or waiter) has had their auto tips removed, they are called into the purser's office and questioned as to WHY, what they did WRONG, to warrant having passengers remove their tips??? So unfair for them to be blamed/questioned for something they had no control over. Don't you agree?
 
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mlzangel78

Guest
If you remove your tips starting day 1 of the cruise , the cabin steward or waiter will not be called in for questioning, however you can not remove them after teh first full day anyways
 
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serene56

Guest
[quote BlueChef]

This is not what I've been told by several crew members. They've said that IF the S&S auto tips are removed, they must pool the cash they receive.

Another interesting thing I learned from a cruise director is: IF any crew member (cabin steward or waiter) has had their auto tips removed, they are called into the purser's office and questioned as to WHY, what they did WRONG, to warrant having passengers remove their tips??? So unfair for them to be blamed/questioned for something they had no control over. Don't you agree?[/quote]

Funny how we get conflicting information-- but do have to agree with one of the waiters i spoke to--- if the tips they get was pooled together where would the incentive be to do better work to get a better tip. Whywould they sharre it with that goof ball who slacks off his job knowing he was gonna split his other workers tips. (made sense to me)

I was aware that if tips are removed the person in question is called in and asked why=- if the water/ steward was aware there was a problem.
 
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